As a photographer that has shot with Catalina, I do hearby give my permission for her to use any and all images from said shoot for her personal promotion, be it web based or print based.

Now having said that, I do not see that DA would need a release form in order for a person to post images for personal promotion. If in fact those images were for sale, then those terms would be set forth in the release form as per the agreement between the model and photographer. Any outside source needs the specific permission from the copyright holder in order to duplicate, promote, or sell any of the images. If their is a discrepency between the photographer and model, that is an issue for the two of them to work out. Not and issue for DA to try and handle. Even if this is the case, DA should at the very least supply the name of the parties in question to each other so a mutual agreement came be made. Otherwise I feel that DA is either being discriminatory or is intending on obtaining release forms for the usage of these images for their personal gain. Whichever the case may be, DA should at least come clean as to whom is bringing this complaint against Catalina Lissett, so that a reasonable agreement between those parties can be obtained.


These are my views and may or may not reflect the views of others.

protocybe.


THEIR REPLY :

It is the position of deviantART to insure that artists have their rights protected- while you personally may not care whatsoever if your photographs are redistributed there are many photographers who I have dealt with over the years who find it absolutely deplorable that their work was being redistributed here without their permission.

We would not be a responsible website if we simply tossed our hands up in he air and cried "It's none of our business".

Protection of an artist's or photographer's rights is why the Policy Enforcement division was formed in the first place.

--
Daniel (realitysquared)
Director of Policy Enforcement,
Community Development Division,
deviantART Inc.



Somebody explain this to me like I am a 3yr old cuz I just dont get it........this is what the reply was to my post in Catalina's Journal.

"It is the position of deviantART to insure that artists have their rights protected- while you personally may not care whatsoever if your photographs are redistributed there are many photographers who I have dealt with over the years who find it absolutely deplorable that their work was being redistributed here without their permission.

We would not be a responsible website if we simply tossed our hands up in he air and cried "It's none of our business".

Protection of an artist's or photographer's rights is why the Policy Enforcement division was formed in the first place."


NOW ASSUMING THAT THEY ARE REALLY HERE TO PROTECT MY RIGHTS AS A PHOTOGRAPHER......TELL ME WHY THIS STATEMENT IS IN THEIR IMAGE SUBMISSION AGREEMENT.

" In the event that we have sublicensed your materials to another website, it is your responsibility to have your materials removed from that website and you will not hold us responsible or liable if the other website refuses to remove your materials."

NOW THIS STATEMENT TELLS ME THAT EVERY TIME I UPLOAD A PICTURE TO DA....I AM GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO SELL MY WORK TO VARIOUS OTHER SITES WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE, PERMISSION, NOR ANY COMPENSATION TO ME AND IF I DONT LIKE IT I HAVE TO GO AFTER THE OTHER SITE AND FIGHT WITH THEM.

HOW CAN YOU SELF-RIGHTEOUS HIPPOCRITICAL PEOPLE TELL ME THAT YOU ARE "PROTECTING" MY RIGHTS AS A PHOTOGRAPHER AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SELL IMAGES TO OTHER SITES ?????

AND EXACTALY HOW CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE A RESPONSIBLE WEBSITE THAT DOESN’T TOSS UP IT HANDS AND CRY “IT’S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS” WHEN IN FACT YOU DO STATE THAT IF WE FIND IMAGES ON OTHER SITES THAT YOU SOLD TO THEM…..IT IS “NONE OF OUR BUSINESS” AND THAT I HAVE TO GO AFTER THE OTHER WEBSITE.

I KNOW THIS MUST BE CRAZY TALK HERE.....BUT LETS JUST THINK ABOUT THE DOUBLE TALK THEY ARE DISHING OUT HERE.